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Post at 27-2-2012 17:52  Profile P.M. 
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@wander. 8 years at this point, not quite to the full decade.

Also, 100% agree with halfclover. punt is what I need to meet my needs, but for the emotional stuff, well, that's what I have my SO. Punting for me is just a physical activity, and its an easy in and out activity, without any legwork, or prep. Just rock up, cock out and fock til you're done.
Also, yes, like everyone here, asian girls are just ... I think we're all suffereing from a bit of yellow fever here, and I know what my medication is!
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Reply #17 slimshanks's post

From what you posted, I suddenly remember a song from Lynyrd Skynyrd with lyrics as follows:

"if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you are with"

Men can do that without much problem. We can adjust ourselves accordingly...thank goodness for that!

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So let me get this straight

If I am ever busted with a WG, my defense is that

"Honey, I go to the WG so I don't have to put you through the things* I like which you wont' do (or haven't done since before we were married)"

and she's gonna say,

"you are so thoughtful and considerate not asking me to do these things, I love you for being so kind and good to me, please continue to go out and have fun while I am hope waiting for you to return from work"  :

I don't think its goona happen in this lifetime.  

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poison dragon drill (OK, so she never did this one for me)
my PDD her (tried it once on her and she told me its gross and not to do it again)
come in mouth (not since we were dating)
other positions beyond our standard miss and CG
putting both my testicles in her mouth
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Reply #23 gwailoplayer's post

Again,

I never said such a defense will work.  Just the truth.  But you paraphrased it wrong anyway:    We're saying "Dear SO, it seems you have the sex life you want.  I deserve the same but you are not willing to provide it.  I could have fought and argued every second day about it and ruin our relationship; I could have left you and thrown it all away;  or I could do what I did: discreetly fulfill what's missing and hope I never hurt you in the process.  I made my choice."

Mind you, even if she was as horny as I, and acted like a porn-star in bed, the variety angle would likely still come into play.  So maybe not the "whole" truth.  I AM just a man-whore, to be sure.  Haha.
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Reply #24 wander's post

Hate to admit it, but my sentiments are the same. I think even if my SO is hornier than me, I'd still go hunting and punting...there are just too many choices available to be ignored! Just not justifiable to let all that go uncharted!

Variety rules man!

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Reply #23 gwailoplayer's post

In my opinion, I think it's a valid defence! We are only saving our SOs the trouble of having to do anything they are not happy to do, whether this be certain types of sexual services, or because they have a lower sex drive.

I would go even further and say they could take on a job or second job to help fund our exploits. only seems fair since we are making their lives easier!

If some bro out there asks their SO, I would appreciate the feedback before I ask mine

I would ask mine, but we don't talk about sex




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I think my SO has a small hunch I monger, but in her mind as long as she (or her friends) does not see it or know about, then it's not happening.  So discretion is the ultimate key!

I think getting away with 'pay, fuck, and bye' behind a SO's back isn't hard, provided a brother has even half a brain.  What I find difficult to understand is how a brother can have two or more regular SOs he is seeing on a regular basis, either a wife and a GF or even two wives!  Just running back and forth between each relationship is so much work and stress if you ask me.

My SO asked me if I would ever have an affair with another women and I gave a heartfelt honest, "No, I would never have any relationship with any other women while being with you"  This is true, because I'm out there to wham, bam, thank you ma'am, and I'm done.   No strings attached.  All business.  Hit and run.  You get the idea.

But as soon as I am having an affair, then it gets 9th level hell shit complicated, watching everything from phone calls, to emails, to time spent outside, and to a certain extent money as well.  Though I would presume the richer brothers could worry less about money.  

Any brothers in polygamous relationships care to share the art of how they handle potential complications?
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Reply #27 Chasem's post

I always said I would NEVER have a "real" affair --- and for many, many, many years this pledge was easy to maintain.  Just wham, bam and out.

And then I met one gal who made it impossible for me to ignore. It is wonderful being with her...., most beautiful woman I have ever seen, smart, funny, kind..., and horny like me!  She has an SO too, and much to lose if caught aswell.  Good.

But:

It IS really tough maintaining it:  finding mutual free time is hard, being careful over time gets more and more challenging because you find yourself taking greater risks just to be with each other.  Yet both of us seem addicted to each other so we keep on.  It is not easy, to be sure.  Nor is it smart.  

I would recommend other Bros stick to our lovely WGs.
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Reply #28 wander's post

Aye Wander, aye...

The longer you are in the affair, the more difficult to maintain it. We are human after all and possibility of making mistakes are always there. Slip of the tongue when we are tired or drunk, something that we do seems different (for sure we will cultivate some habits with the other women) to our SO, not careful with things we keep like a receipt or any small items which doesn't belong in the normal household, all these are time bombs that may go off at any time. If the SO has a strong 6th sense, that makes it even more difficult to keep the secret.

Punt, man, punt. Plenty of WGs to go around and new supplies are produced everyday.

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halfclover   28-2-2012 17:15  Karma  +1   So true




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Reply #27 Chasem's post

Yeah.

The thing is, the WGs satisfy physical needs awesomely.  But if the relationship with the SO has lacked passion, tenderness, conversation, and general intimacy for many years, then you start to miss those things more and more.  Then comes along some sweet, hot little thing who tells you that you're handsome, fun, interesting, that you're a brilliant lovemaker, and she says she wants to be your GF, fully aware that you're married.  You wouldn't go for it, you'd say no, absolutely?  Now add that the sweet little one is in a different city where your office happens to send you regularly.  

That's how it works for me.   Except these days, the GF had some family stuff to take care of and I probably won't be meeting her for a few more months.
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Post at 28-2-2012 09:53  Profile P.M. 
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its simply the THRILL of tasting of different food or trying out different things when we go punting different WGs/women.
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My favorite food is pizza. But I can't eat pizza everyday or I will get tired of it.  Those are the words my wife always repeats to me when a girl asks to meet me and I tell her I am not in the mood.

My wife doesn't want me to get tired of her so she always encourages me to find different girls to try. Sometimes she is the one to find the girls. The rules are I need to pay them unless the girl is friends with both of us and I need to let her know in advance and I still need to be able to fuck my wife when necessary.

The sex life between me and my wife is not bad, but it isn't close to what it was several years ago. We fuck a few times per week and she is fairly open with sex. But it is a lot less than a few years ago when we used to fuck everyday and she used to dress in lingerie for me and we often had other girls staying with us and joining in. Anyway she truly enjoys having different girls around and the power of being able to control the girls and having them call her to ask permission to meet me.

Last Sunday we had a nice little Indonesian girl come over our flat that I used to meet a few years ago and just came in contact with again and introduced her to my wife a couple of weeks before. My wife and her cooked live crabs together for lunch and spent hours talking to each other about life and things. After lunch she let me fuck the girl in our room while my wife stayed on the sofa since the girl didn't want her to watch. After we finished my wife gave her $500 and thanked her because I need too much sex for my wife to handle by herself and the girl thanked my wife because she felt lonely and my wife was kind enough to share her husband with her and she needed money for her daughters tuition.   I was happy since the girl fucked like she hadn't seen cock in months and took every drop of cum in her mouth and swallowed it all down like it was candy with a big smile on her face.

I know that is not normal.  I am also not normal, I guess that's why we found each other.

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DArtagnan   29-2-2012 11:23  Karma  +5   Rock on!
halfclover   28-2-2012 17:17  Karma  +1   Speechless
gwailoplayer   28-2-2012 13:43  Karma  +1   if this is all true, you are on a different planet from all of us
Tuffbod   28-2-2012 13:42  Karma  +1   Damn! Now that's a life worth living!
SEAJ   28-2-2012 12:27  Karma  +1   Ah Yes, U w/the charmed life/wife! Living the dream still! Sigh..!
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Reply #32 superich's post

????
That is so wild Superrich.  I          am                   speechless.   

Really??

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SEAJ   28-2-2012 12:27  Acceptance  +1   Yeah- read his other reports. The guy lives a charmed life!
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Originally posted by Tuffbod at 28-2-2012 09:29
Aye Wander, aye...

The longer you are in the affair, the more difficult to maintain it. We are human after all and possibility of making mistakes are always there. Slip of the tongue when we are tire ...

Yep, the devil is in the detail, women are much better at picking up non verbal cues than us.  Never write notes to yourself, if you have to, account for them carefully and destroy each and every one before you get home. I missed one &  had a month of "talk and tears", fortunately there was "plausible deniability" in play and it all passed, just lucky there I can tell you. For me, nothing written comes come or even reaches my home town airport unless it is in a innocuous looking encrypted file, no I'm not kidding.

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Intenseslacker   28-2-2012 17:53  Karma  +2   Absolutely. Never Write Anything Down. Bring nothing home.
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Yeah - I had a couple affairs - and they all ended poorly. Not in a major disaster, but in the end, I was unhappy I was in them. Some thoughts I have about them now:

1) Damn, affairs quickly become a lot like work. I remember at one point I was at the OWs (Other Womans) house, and for whatever reason, I didn't get laid... and I thought "fuck, if I wanted to spend all night listening to someone and not getting fucked, I can do THAT at home!" It's not that long before all of the baggage you have in your home life comes to call i your affair - and now you're just doubling down on the same problem you had before.

2) Affairs have emotions. And those are dangerous. Emotional people do stupid things. And even in the best of circumstances, you're now dealing with someone who has feelings for you - and who you have real feelings fopr - but you're married. And well, now you have to deal with that. And the guilt and bullshit for both sides of that are shitty.

3) NEVER have an affair w/a single woman. It does not matter WHAT she does or says, it is either gonna end with her wanting you to leave your current situation, or her moving on to someone who IS willing to leave their current situation and make an honest woman of them. No single woman wants to stay a mistress forever. In a best case, you're just keeping the bed warm for the dude who will replace you. Worst case, she is going to get weird as fuck and try to change things.

4) If you get busted, there is no "it meant nothing - just sex" - because thats a lie she wont believe. At least with a WG, there is some level of plausable deniability because you CAN say it was just sex.

In the end, I have pretty much given up on affairs. I've got a SO for everything but the excess sex I need - and the most straightforward, trouble free way of filling that last remaining need is just to go pay for it. It's a bit sad, I guess - nobody wants to say they pay for sex - but... thats the most reasonable, simple solution I've come up with. I try to do it safely, and treat the WGs with respect... and I have been pretty OK so far.

But if I get caught - I have no idea... maybe I'll look back on this whole thing as a risk I didn't need to take. But if I didn't, and had to just live with the pent up sexual frustration... maybe that is a risk, too? As horrible as it sounds, my marriage has improved since I started mongering. I'm more relaxed, and I don't have the resentment I used to have about not getting satisfied. I'm sure she will never understand - but thats something I can live with as long as I can keep the whole thing secret.

We should start a thread (with a 30RA) to share our tips and secrets for keeping our mongering from prying eyes of SO. The RA is to keep away lurking SOs...

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Tuffbod   1-3-2012 16:07  Karma  +1   It's all about sex..
halfclover   1-3-2012 15:20  Karma  +2   Great wisdom here
wander   28-2-2012 23:09  Karma  +3   Wise words. If only I would listen!! Must learn the hard way...
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Reply #22 Tuffbod's post

Lynyrd Skynrd indeed !

You must be high or perhaps not born 1980 to attribute that song to this band.

That was sung by Crosby Stills & Nash (1970).  

OK I am really into music, but get your facts correct for Fuxk sake .

Keep on mongering

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wander   28-2-2012 23:10  Karma  +2   Haha. I saw that too..... Funny
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I think the moral of the story (and this thread shows it more than many others) is that the benefits of this hobby are that you don't pay the girl to turn up and provide a service, but to walk away at the end (and allow you to walk away) without expecting anything more than the agred price.

Any other option can risk someone losing more than they want to risk. As intenseslacker says, an affair can blow up on your face and cause more damage if it ends badly/the other person wants more than the other is willing to give.
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Reply #36 gwailoplayer's post

Sorry Master, my bad...you are right. It's a song by Crosby, Stills & Nash recorded live in 1970 - "Love the one you're with"

Lynyrd Skynyrd's been around since the 70s and funny though that in my mind I always thought these lines were from a song by Lynyrd Skynyrd...now i gotta check where did I screw up my memory on this one....maybe I am still high on something from back then... LOL

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Reply #38 Tuffbod's post

No worries and thanks for the note, your humble apology is graciously accepted

I am totally into certain music from the 60s through the 80s and forget other people are not so into it and can easily confuse things.

I sometimes forget to put myself in other people's shoes : to me it is as obvious as not knowing the difference between bourbon and vodka,  or perhaps in the context of our favorite activity here a WG from China as compared to one from Indonesia two totally different animals in terms of mentality, approach, performance, and follow up

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Reply #39 gwailoplayer's post

With passion, everything can be clear and precise.

I grew up listening to stuffs from 60s through 80s as well and I am open to all sort of genres and styles. I seriously am not sure whyI mixed up this song between Crosby, Stills & Nash with Lynyrd Skynyrd. Could it be Southern Rock has similarity to folk/rock?

Anyway, good to know there are music lovers amongst us mongerers and chronic punters!

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