Totally agree Lucy Lius face is just a wreck. But then I also seen a lot of asian guys together with some real ugly white girls too

oh mars....where did u dig up that photo??

She doesn't look like it in that photo...but she kinda looks like charlene of the twins...she was a great lay....

Sorry paka, that was a low blow, but I couldn't resist. I just wanted to make the point that being Chinese doesn't automatically make a guy an expert on Asian beauty. When I read that assertion of yours that they'd have to pay you 50K to sleep with Lucy Liu, I just had to go through your old reports to see if I could find something that would shed light on that bold statement of principle. (I have to admit the others you reported on were much prettier.)


Dude, how many Asian guys have you seen together with Asian girls who were really ugly? - me lots. You guys all talk as if the white guys are all seeing skanks, and all the Asian guys are going around with Asian beauty queens.    Not so!

In Japan, for instance, a lot of the really beautiful chicks are with white guys. In Taiwan and HK, you do see a lot of pretty girls with local guys - and some of those guys are real toads, btw - but I always assumed that was a matter of beauty following the $. Japanese chicks, on the other hand, just love to fuck.

btw, none of the women I've been involved with over here would ever be considered ugly, but don't expect me to post the pics to prove it.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 28-12-2009 13:28 ]

This is my opinion only and I'm not biased or prejudiced but...

Regarding asian women going out with westners... my concern is that If the 'minority' of 'those' Asian men treat their ladies better, than some of the asian women wouldn't go dating/marrying foreigners..  

this happens quite often in Korea and Japan as far as I know..

but then again.. there are other attributes as well which determine why some asian women go out with westners..

on a side note... (personally I don't care who ends up with who...) as long as the ladies are treated right...

why can't eveyone be happy mongering away

hear hear... lol

I agree with ur statement there..... I see loads of asian beauties with westners... some guys are toads but others probably good looking.. (don't ask me if a guy is good looking as I can't really tell)

if they plan on having kids... hope they have plenty of girls.. there are some really hot mixed races.. eg.. Maria

The white dudes should get it ("it" being more/better pussy than they can get in their home countries) while it lasts. The old colonial Asian inferiority complex is, let's hope, slowly withering away.

Speaking of colonialism, the white dudes I know who are actually from HK (meaning, born here, their family is from here, etc) tend to stick to white women, and have nothing of the yellow fever.

You're correct. Already white skin doesn't have the drawing power it used to have (sigh). Here in Taiwan, I used to be a God.

But there will always be Japan where the local guys are totally clueless when it comes to bedding women.

i think in the end, regardless of what race you are.... if you have the $$$ you can get ugly/hot/old/young girls.

who cares what other people think as long you enjoy her.  I'm not going to lie, i enjoy the occasional MILF every now and then (im a young guy). hah!

Keep up the good work bros!

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Are you sure that's not just because you're getting older.   No offence.  

its all in the eye of the beholder.
Thats good for some of the not as pretty wg's
Some guys just see things different.
I like all types and most women I can find something I like.
Im a non-asian guy and I like lite skin asian gals and dark skin asina gals.
I like big tits and small tits.
I like them all as long as they are cute.

In HK, I like looking at the girls who get to ride in the passenger seats of the numerous lambourghinis, ferraris, and bentleys here.  More often than not, the girls, in these high-end cars with rich bfs/hubbies in the driver seats, are plain!  Not hot and not cute.  But if I take a peek at the passenger side seats of the many delivery vans I see all over HK, the girls are more often than not very cute and hot.  

I guess in the social dynamics of HK, the rich marry the safe, plain types to have many sons to continue their empires and then find hot babes to be their mistresses or wgs.  The working class driver cannot dream of getting a hot mistress or visiting many high-end karaoke clubs for their hot girls, so have to go for the home run and get a cute girl to be his wife.   That is why female children of many of the rich families are not that attractive and only look good because they can afford expensive salons and makeups.  The really hot girls are the children of those delivery van drivers and their cute gfs/wives.

In this forum, I bet you there are alot of asian guys and some non-asian guys who grew up abroad in N.America or Europe in the 60's,70's,80's before coming to Asia to work and live.  In those periods of time, the asian population was really small, widely scattered, and in many places quite assimilated.  Without having a decent population of asians back then, it was expected for everyone (asian and non-asian) to share the same criteria for beauty and looks.  I was used to judge the asian fobs by the mainstream causcasian beauty standards.  The suzy wong style of asian beauty.  ie, Lucy Liu, Connie Chong (newscaster), etc.

But after living in Asian for several years, I have found that my criteria for asian beauty has changed and conformed more to the local asian criteria.  And when I go back to N.America for short visits, I see alot of ugly Asian-North Americans.  And everyone looks fatter including the asians there.  I am too used to the skinny standards here in Asia.

If I was to move permanently back to N. America, I am sure my beauty criteria would change once again to conform to N. America.  But the changes will not be as drastic as it was from growing up in N.America to living in Asia because now there are alot of Asians and from all over Asia living in decent size populations and these communities are even more tightly connected to Asia (via internet and cheap air travel) that many reminders of the Asian beauty criteria can be seen.

I wonder if there's greater, diversity acceptance in one culture versus the other and that's what drives a (perhaps) broader 'standard' of beauty in the U.S.?

Actually the answer is quite complicated, but I will try to make it simple.  Regardless how diverse a society is, there is really one dominant beauty standard of a culture that is applied universally on all ethnic groups.  If you have a chance to watch the tv news in the usa, there will be female newscaster of every ethnic group in the usa.   You can actually see that all the newscasters dress a certain way, have a certain hairstyle, certain style of makeup, and speak the same way with similar accent.  For the mainstream advertising markets, there is only one look.  Then of course you have niche markets for the more recent immigrants and they will appropriate ethnic spokespersons for them.  Yet these spokespersons will also conform to the dominant standard of beauty too.

So for any female who wants to do well in any media job in the usa, she has to conform to the dominant criteria for beauty which is unfortunately what the white guy likes.

So if Lucy Liu grew up in Taiwan instead in Queens, NYC, she would have absorbed the asian mindset for beauty and body shape (ie not have an athletic body but the usual slim asian body) and most possibly be able to dress, do make up, asian hairstyle, talk and walk (ie, you would not be surprised how often the locals here tell me that abc girls walk like men) in a way that will appeal to the asians here in asia yet vice-versa not look hot enough for the usa market.  

Like I wrote in my #92 post, one's standards of beauty can change from appropriate exposure.  When I was a teenager, a Lucy Liu was fine and good looking for me, but after being in Asia and learning the traditional Asian definition of classical beauty, a Lucy Liu doesnt look so good after all.  

Hope the above makes sense.

What do you mean by acceptance?

I dont think there is much acceptance of asian culture in the states, just take a look at mainstream media.

Yeah?  Compared to what?  You think there are more black news anchormen in Japan?  Or more hispanic actors pitching products in Hong Kong? More asian talk show hosts in Europe?  I think if you look around the world that you'll find that the U.S. is the most diverse in it's mainstream media.

I'm not arguing that the U.S. is perfectly integrated.  I'm just postulating the theory that in the U.S., because of it's cultural diversity, there is a greater acceptance of a broader set of beauty standards.  And that perhaps that's why we'll bang a broader range of chicks with a broader set of looks.  

Of course we could just be horny too . . .

You are very wrong.  America is only culturally diverse in a few main cities.  Probably less than 1% of the whole US.  If you come to NYC, Boston, Philadelphia you will see the diversity, you travel a few miles outside of the city, it's a whole different story.  When I go a few miles north and west of NYC, I get referred to as "you guys" and they don't mean NYers.  Same thing in the West Coast, a few major cities then the rest is redneckville.  99% of the US is not culturally diverse, I've been to Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky (not as bad), Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, certain parts of Texas, certain parts of Florida, etc... where being called a Chink is the norm.  I was once pulled over in the backwoods of Georgia after getting lost (before I had GPS in my cars), the cop said to me, "what the fuck are you doing here Chink?  Got lost on your way to CANTON?  Damn Gooks! You have any opium in the car?  Your eyes looked fucked up, are you sure you aren't high? why don't you get your mooshoo ass out of here, your kind isn't wanted here" all the while his partner was laughing.  All I could say was, yes sir, no sir because the last thing I needed was to spend a night in a local jail with Buckley and the rest of his KKK friends.  This culturally diverse shit is only for the media,...  Then you have stories like Vincent Chin, look it up...

Whether we think Lucy Liu is hot or not... NONE of us are her type!  ("Not that there's anything wrong with it.")

Wrong !

I'm pretty sure there are some bro's in this forum who have more money than her !

More baseless, off the top of his head, exaggeration from sexpert. Even granting the truth of what he says about attitudes towards non-white peoples, whites only account for about 63% of the US population (excluding Latinos of all races), and a majority of all Americans live in large cities or their immediate suburbs. If you sum the populations of very racially diverse cities such as NYC, LA, Boston, San Francisco, Seattle, etc., you already account for more than 10% of the US population, so that 1% figure is nonsense.

The US is a remarkably diverse place; sure you can still find a lot of racist rednecks -  the voting base of the Republican party, for instance - but these people are themselves a minority.

btw, tho many rural white Americans may be ignorant about Asian races and cultures, very few people in the States feel any animosity towards Asians.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 30-12-2009 15:12 ]