Enough assumptions, I think ruggers firstly needs to assess where his friend is on the Jesus scale?  Some are fine and reasonable and don't try to convert the unconvertible, through the "witnessing" devotees, to the well and truly loony (strange how so many of the latter I know vote Republican and got upset when I bagged Bush (but I digress).

The friend I mentioned stays my friend because (1) he shares my views on Bush, and (2), I don't let him get carried away ..... like I will usually halt the direction of the conversation by stating something like;  "this is leading to the Earth only being 7,000 years old again isn't it?"

I did notice that you wrote "Jesus nutter" but, from the way you write, you seem to think that anyone who believes in any religion is a 'nutter'. Or am I wrong?

Baggins, is mutual hatred of Bush enough to underpin a friendship? Sounds unhealthy to me bro.   If that were the case, you'd be getting "X has invited you to join his network of friends" messages from 95% of the world's population!

And yes, of course we don't know what the guy's Nutter Quotient is, but I'm running with what little we've been told. I do, however, find this near-30 year-old's virginity and his recent conversion to Christianity to be suspiciously complimentary. The true Nutter invariably suffers from some torment that both causes and is relieved by the born-again experience. The feeling of relief and the need to preserve it, in part explain the obnoxious evangelism of these guys.

pisser, to be honest, I think any belief in gods is insane yes; but religions come in all flavors and some are much more benign than others. The born-again truly crazies - those that think every word of the Bible is literally true - think Episcopalians to be no better than atheists, for instance. Everyone thinks their own religion is perfectly reasonable, but that all the others are nuts - well they're all nuts.

But the big difference among these people is personality. The Nutter is militantly in-your-face and utterly impervious to reason, and they are insufferable to be around. I know this from extensive experience in the States. Also, I'm a well-known member on another forum that sees constant battles between atheists and Nutters, and those two groups really don't speak the same language; for instance, the terms truth, evidence, and know are understood in completely different ways.

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I said we agreed on dislike of Bush so this doesn't "unpin" the friendship (or did you mean "underpin"), but it is common ground, and we have a lot of things in common, both political and general. Enough for us both to get along with him trying to convert me, and me teasing him for doing so. He has son in Marines serving in Iraq so the common dislike for Bush and his policies is a bit more serious than casual banter.

PS edit:  Bloody hell! all this time and I finally identify spelling/grammer error in a Grumbles post ... break out the champagne!

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here's another for you Froddo ... but who am I to split hairs??  

Play on, play on ...

Jezzus!  Not the pudge-boy avatar again!!   Michaelangelo is gonna come haunt your dreams . . .

So tell us, what happened with your friend?

Hey! Yes.. sorry.. didnt' really think about this for a while cause he postponed his trip several times but he did come over and we did go to China. Problem was.... his cousin from HK came too.. and SHE was quite an obstacle to say the least. I did my best to get rid of her but to no avail. He even tried to get rid of her but she just wouldn't fuck off. Worse part was.. she wasn't even pretty.. well.. pretty nasty that is. haha.. was a nightmare. So we didn't do anything worthy of mentioning and was a total let down.

Did have a chat with him alone for a bit tho. And I told him what I was going to do. He didn't "object" to it, so to speak and said he would only if the chic was pretty enough. So, I'm just waiting for him to drag his ass back to Asia next year and we'll do it proper.. wtihout that X*&@X!#!X cousin of his.

i think when presented with a hot hot chick with legs spread wide open, then only the strongest of men could resist....

I think EVERY man has got to try it out once.

You got to see everything that this world has to offer. After that, its up to him if he wants to continue or not. But at least give it a try!!

I've gone with friends several times...even those who seem "conservative" but they always go when they actually get there. I wouldn't be too worried about it. Happy hunting.

Me-thinks this may have been a blessing in disguise... in that you had a chance to talk to him and at least got an "OK" from him/plenty of hope!!

SEAJ.

Plenty of hope indeed. I'm pretty anxious for his next visit here. God knows when that is. I wanna be the first to take him to one of these places! haha

What if he is gay? That could be why you don't know when he is getting laid, he is not going to tell you about the guy he fucked over the week-end, is he?

I have run into a similar situation that you are in.  Us buddies wanted to do the same thing and we kind of surprised him with a WG and he was actually upset that we didnt talk to him before hand about it.  

I think it might be wiser just to mention that your taking him to a massage parlor or to a KTV and he has the option of taking it further if he would like to.  All expenses paid..  haha..  At least you opened the door and now its totally up to him to walk through this door.  With a few drinks in him, I dont think it will be an issue.  I think at least give him the option and he will appreciate you guys more.

I suggest in future if he comes again,  you take him to the hotel bar, and order two girls in advance who show up later on in the bar. Start flirting casually with them, (siting next to each other, drinking, flirting, touching...). This should do the trick, unless the guy is true monk. In that case take the both girls to your room and fuck them wild...

cheers.

[ Last edited by  ulebsari at 23-1-2010 23:16 ]

Brilliant idea bro - I like the way you think!