so i am just sitting here bored and with not many topics of interest to respond to, i thought i'd start my own. perhaps this should be in the poll section, but i'm not really interested in statistics as opposed to just starting a discussion, so here goes.

i went for a massage tonight and at the end came the beginnings of a HE, however it did not end up that way. let me explain. i went to a reputable massage lady that is known for providing excellent massages here in TO. however, she is in her forties, about 160lbs and literally shaped like a beach ball. there is a lot of fuss about her in the community here that she has an amazing touch and all, but having been back to china, i was spoiled. i can see how she is considered great by TO standards, but she just doesnt compare in overall quality, youth, and even touch as some that i have tried in china.

so onto the question. she starts her HJ routine with soft teasing strokes along the body and legs and stuff, and she gets me hard. but as she's going at it, i lose my wood and to cut a long story short, although she put in a lot of effort, she was not able to make me cum. so the question is, for you guys out there, when stimulated, which is often the one aspect that you can't do without to put you over?

is purely manual stimulation enough to put you over, regardless of the girl's appearances?

do you need a bit of extra stimulation by way of some oral or aural encouragement?

or is it the combination of factors that constitutes a cerebral effect to put you over?

i'll start off by saying that for me, 9 out of 10 times purely going at it like a jack hammer won't put me over. also, i rarely pop by bj's. for me, i need that aural encouragement of moans and screams, which in turn (even tho she's faking it) adds to the whole cerebral effect that makes the pop more intense. but some of my best releases have been where the girl knows to add that aural dimension into the mix.

TO meaning Toronto ?

I doesn't matter how horny I might be ... I'd never go to a 40 year old beach ball !!!
and even where you are, I know there are other better opportunities ...

Definitely cerebral fantasy stimulated by a combination of visual, aural, pheromonal, touch, kinesthetics, and context. Frantic robot pumping just gives me a sore dick!

When you said beach ball and "in 40's" i got scared man, even the oral/aural and visual etc.. won't even cut it out, I would be limp as hell for sure!

I need the entire combination to make me have a better experience and pop; of course i could go for less.. however it'd take me longer to pop

I have to say I am a very "visual guy". If I like what I see it sends me well and truly on the way. I have never had a HJ from a "beachball" so I technically cant comment but I suspect my mind would start wondering "what am I doing here, what time is my first appt tomorrow etc" and I would lose concentration.

As a result, sometimes I can go to a bar, and I could well 100% believe in my heart I am just going to have a few drinks, relax and listen to music etc. Honestly... and then a gal with "the right look" would catch my eye and suddenly I would flip. It's a weakness I have no control over. Everyone has their Kryptonite right LOL.

On the other hand, I do know of Bros who are totally physically motivated. One guy at the ISG forum was actually bragging about having sex with a "grandma type" just because it was free or cheap... who cares what she looks like? Fair enough, each to his own I guess.

I am definitely all about the visual appeal.  I have always strayed away from the thigh massage girls in Macau saunas just for that reason.  If I wouldn't want to screw them, I don't want them anywhere near my dick.

Beachball...no way.  

It's a sliding scale but there are some items which would tips the scales too far over.  A beachball (BBW scale) would not work for me.  Of course if looks were weaker I'd be swayed by above average tactile stimulation most and then good aural would help and of course some mouth2privates would move it to a happier ending.  I didn't think that sound effects would be useful until I went to a respected massage provider who wasn't mcot but she leaned over and started breathing deep in my ear and whispering...all of sudden I was ready to burst!

You gotta get to the imagination station! Close your eyes and repeat "young hawt hawttie, young hawt hawttie" over and over again

I've only had one BBW, during which I focused on her massive breasts.

If you haven't noticed, I'm a visual learner =)  I don't really like the fake vocal stuff.

I'm visual first and tactile second.  The aural stuff I can take it or leave it, it does help a bit if it sounds like she's getting into the session, but mostly it's just fakery.  No, for me, a hottie that I can fondle is the best deal!

I'm visual first as well. The sight of a nice body, smile, look etc...but I'm oral too. Even the fake moans, when not exagerated, do it for me. Damn...I look forward to nailing a hot girl who talk spanish between her moans while I pound her hard !

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Can I ask the mods why my credits and Karma are not going up sometimes when I post ? Yesterday, I was 106 credits/karmas for 104 posts but now I'm 107 credits/karmas for 109 posts.
At first, I thougt someone gave me neg credits/karmas without me knowing. But I've just posted this last post then checked right after posting ( before editing) and no increase credits/karmas occured.

[ Last edited by  conqueror77 at 25-2-2010 01:21 ]