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DATY

Caught any nasty from DATY on WGs?
Many times i almost dive in but somehow i always chicken out at the last minute.....sigh....

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wow, you had an itch in your groin the outcome you never finished telling us about and now you have a phobia with DATY !

Please go to the family planning association and get one of their councilors there to explain things to you !

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Sound like you have picked up a case of Erotophobia. You're best bet is either to take some gladwrap with you, stick a piece on her cunny and carry on, or man up and carry on.

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ive only done it once, with a chick i was with for 5 days on my recent trip to pattaya.

Like Akka said bring some glad wrap!!! lol

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Reply #3 akka's post

i believe OP should use a full on latex on his head for DATY.  Its 99.99% safe

or like the movie naked gun with the full body condom!


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This brings me back when an old ex and I tried using dental dams (early on and she was nervous with anything oral) although Ill be honest, was a turn off licking and tonguing a neon green sheet of latex....
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Reply #1 triplehorn's post

Just make sure you shower with her first, and you can even clean the area yourself. It's more fun. In my punting in HKG and Macau, I did not find a single WG who was receptive to DATY, but I did not push too hard. But here in the old USA, the Korean gals are very receptive to it.

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Reply #7 lefeu's post

Agree bro, showering first is a must. Interesting you mentioned noone was receptive to DATY in HK.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by twiceAweek at 29-4-2012 07:48
wow, you had an itch in your groin the outcome you never finished telling us about and now you have a phobia with DATY !

Please go to the family planning association and get one of their councilors t ...

well i tried but the family planning association's councilors didnt have a fix for my case
Instead they told me to try the councilors from sex141 wahaha.....
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by akka at 29-4-2012 20:48
Sound like you have picked up a case of Erotophobia. You're best bet is either to take some gladwrap with you, stick a piece on her cunny and carry on, or man up and carry on.

orite i will take your advice and man up bro !!!
i'm terrible with gladwrap, i can never ever tear a sheet off wiithout clumping up the first 30cm...........
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I think HSV is a real threat with DATY.OK with gf but i doubt that i will do that with a WG.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by lefeu at 1-5-2012 10:39 AM
Just make sure you shower with her first, and you can even clean the area yourself. It's more fun. In my punting in HKG and Macau, I did not find a single WG who was receptive to DATY, but I did not p ...

In all my experiences, it seems mainland Chinese girls who are new to the business are most into DATY.

For the harden pros, while you DATY, they just stare at the ceiling looking bored.
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Reply #12 furryfriend's post

Yeah, that's similar to my experience though I generally agree w. the OPer and avoid DATY w/ girls unless they're quite new, fresh and clean. I also avoid it if the have much hair as I prefer to get a VERY close look at what's going on down there before making the decision. If they're still quite tight, no observable blemishes around the pussy and the smell is fresh then I'll stick with the top of the clit and use a thumb on the actually pussy, thereby minimizing contact w/ her fluids. As she starts to get wet, I'll lay off the DATY and stick w/ fingers from that pt...reaching over the gargle and spit while keeping her aroused. So, whether by luck or trying to play reasonably safe, I've never had any problem w/ the approach to answer the OPer question.

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AsnDragon   12-6-2012 11:58  Karma  +1   Check before dining...
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Reply #13 matsumoto's post

Yes, always check to see if the coast is clear down there.

Make sure there's:

1. No fishy odor
2. nothing coming out such as white or green bits and chunks
3. No warts and or lesions

But honestly, I only DATY girls I like...that are clean down there with no disgusting odor down there. Let me tell you, I've smelled really horrific odor down there on many women-- that stench that would make you puke in your mouth and you end up swallowing it to numb your sensory nerves because your puke would smell better than her stench.

The really hairy LS are the annoying ones as the hair gets into your nose. But I'd rather them be all natural than all shaven with stubble all over- doesn't feel very feminine to me.


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STDs and DATY

Agreed AsnDragon, just for two recent examples that go to this point, I posted a reply to a few weeks ago to a punter who was praising a 141 walk-up girl in Sheung Wang and mentioned good DATY w/ her. I saw the same girl the previous week and had pulled out almost immediately after starting in mish as I noted greenish streaks on the condom after the first few thrusts. I always make a point to pull out completely after the first few just to make sure there's no discoloration on the condom (as noted above it's generally going to be whitish or greenish when a girl has an LB infection or possibly blood). Personally, I've never even thought about giving a 141 walk-up (or walk-in) DATY as they've generally been in use a long time and operate outside required medical inspections / oversight.  Anyway, that’s just me and to each his own.

Another recent incident involved a WG at D1. A similar situation where I went down to kiss on the sides of her nearly hairless bush and used thumb to move around her LS. However, observing her LS after from the side during this foreplay allowed me to notice some fairly dense white discharge coming from her vagina. It clearly wasn't the good kind (which would be lighter, more translucent and have a familiar pleasant smell). It didn't smell bad so, when I brought it to her attention right away, she said it was medicine and gave a rather evasive answer as to why (same as the 141 walk-up girl above said about the green stuff). That's absolutely fine with me as I recognize it probably embarrassed the girl or, at least, brings up negative emotions for her. I sympathize that they don't want to stop working when infected w/ something though, on the other hand, I do not sympathize at all with the fact this puts their customers at risk (and, of course, themselves, by continuing to have sex when they're not fully healthy).

These experiences go to show that DATY and certainly BBFS do carry risks that should be well understood beforehand. It isn't like every WG takes a break to get 100% healthy when she has a problem. Most probably don't stop any longer than necessary as they're trying to maximize their earnings. So, medical days off carry a high cost and one that many girls aren't willing to absorb so long as the problem appears manageable. Also, many WGs might not be well informed, get proper medical advice or get regular checks. In many cases (eg, chlamydia, HPV/genital warts, syphilis, HSV-1 & 2), the symptoms vary substantially in different hosts and it isn't uncommon for symptoms to go unnoticed or be mistaken for something else (or just go into remission before being treated). I assume many of those with experience who "checked out the kitchen before dining" (whether b/c one intended DATY or was just taking a look in the course of warming up before a session) have noticed LS areas w/ a red blemish here or there (which I find WGs often dismiss as pimples...maybe), a couple of small discolored bumps (possibly HPV) or the type of discolored discharge mentioned already.     

Keep in mind too that STDs, like all viruses and bacterias, are evolving and in many cases becoming stronger and more difficult to treat.So, the cost of contracting one could be higher than expected. A good friend who's a doctor in Taipei has related the increasing difficulty of treating regular bacterial infections that patients contracted through DATY and sex (including protected sex whereby the bacteria was transmitted to the surface of the pubic area rather than internally via the tip of the penis or due to a broken condom). There is much medical evidence of this trend to the point it even showed up on the bottom of the front page cover of the South China Morning Post 2 weeks ago in an article tracing the evolution of a highly drug-resistant strain of gonorrhea that doctors from Japan to the UK were struggling to treat. I assume we all know that gonorrhea (along w/ other STDs) is not 100% confined to genital transmission (ie, DATY does carry real risks).

I don’t want to preach and I’ve certainly taken more than my share of unneeded risks but, for more info, here’s a helpful link on this topic:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/general/default.htm

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Reply #15 matsumoto's post

Matsumoto,


Very good post!

Firstly, the green discharge is probably a result of an  yeast infection. Those greenish discharge and chunks are basically the bodily fluid trying to flush away all the accumulated gunk inside. It can be treated with the correct amount of antibiotics.

You are very correct in your assessment of evolving and more drug resistant bacteria out there that lead to Tuberculosis. It's a huge epidermic especially in India and China where Antibiotics are usually abused and overused. In China, clinics actually earn more money by just injecting antibiotics into the IV bag to charge patients more.

Thus whenever you see someone in China get sick the go a get an IV which is filled with a shot of antibiotics. That's why people feel better after an IV drip, they got fluids in their body and if there's a bacterial infection they feel better right away. However, the problem is most of the antibiotics require you to take a few days of it to make sure the bacteria is completely killed off. if not, just one shot and not finishing up the full course will allow the bacteria to multiply and become even stronger, But this type of practice is making bacteria more resistant to multiple forms of stronger antibiotics in the market, leading to TB. Perhaps that's why if you ever get a cold or infection (strep throat/bronchitis) from China it's extra nasty and very hard to get well.

It's just really tough for a WG. Imagine you don't have much money and you have something really bad going on in your body. Sometimes the girl neglects seeing doctors to save money and it does lead to serious illnesses that may even require surgery later on.

At many saunas in China, just to let you know, management requires every girl to get an antibiotic shot to make sure that they are free of any type of infection. People in China think that antibiotics is the solve-it-all for all diseases and they are wrong. They don't even have symptoms and they are getting shots. But these types of practices also contribute to drug resistant bacteria. The over-use of antibiotics is prevalent in China and in other countries such as India and parts of Africa.

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by furryfriend at 2-5-2012 14:39
In all my experiences, it seems mainland Chinese girls who are new to the business are most into DATY.

My personal experience is very different.  New mainland girls, like civis, seem to resist DATY because they think it is gross.  They don't like fluid exchange of any sort.  The more experienced they are, the more open they are to it.

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Reply #17 kaleu's post

Well I was just heading out for a punt, but after reading this I think I might do something else......

I honestly couldn't DATY WG, I have gone down there but couldnt do the deed
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by AsnDragon at 12-6-2012 15:30
You are very correct in your assessment of evolving and more drug resistant bacteria out there that lead to Tuberculosis. It's a huge epidermic especially in India and China where Antibiotics are usually abused and overused. In China, clinics actually earn more money by just injecting antibiotics into the IV bag to charge patients more.
...

And this practice has contributed to the largest group of treatment resistant TB known, appropriately, as the "Beijing Strain" of which there are now many variations and spreading rapidly around the world.

http://www.plosone.org/article/i ... ournal.pone.0016020




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I can't bring myself to DATY a WG either. Too many of these WGs don't completely understand personal hygiene. I really can't be sure HOW clean they are. Especially in Asia. North American Independent WGs, if you go for "Incall", you can at least get a sense of how clean they are by how they upkeep their home. but I've yet to see an Asian WG's home that I feel is hygenic.

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