This subject probably got two sorts of guys to check out the post:  those that want to find girls that do it and those that want to stay away from girls that do it.  I'm from the latter group.

There has been discussion in the reports section of some girls offering sex without a condom (Michelle in Hop Yee Bldg and Dan Dan in Sheung Wan).  I have also had an experience w/ Irene (the S&M queen in Nat'l Court) offering up sex with me without a condom.

I just want to know who does this so I can know who to avoid.  If anyone has information on other WG's offering bare sex, please advise.  Thanks.

Good point, I would like to know who to avoid in Macau.

I think I have read couple threads of BBFS in Macau from the Chinese side.

The whole point of using a condom is to protect you and/or the girl from contracting a STD from a possibly diseased partner. So even if the girl does provide that service with others, as long as you insist on suiting up, is there really anything to worry about?

I think there is kind of.  Looks like some of our brothers are deep kissing some WG's.  WOw, that is not a good idea if they have been sucking bare cock and licking ass. : )))))

Than ask them to brush their teeth first What's the big deal

Marsupial, you're right, a condom is there to protect you and the girl from contracting a STD.  And let's say it's 95% effective, because let's face it, you never know about a minor tear, or slipping off, or whatever.  Do you want to roll the dice if there's a 5% chance that you could contract a STD which you will then pass off (unaware) to your girlfriend or wife?

Let me put it another way:  if you were given the option of either doing a beautiful girl with a STD or one without a STD, which would you choose, given that there's really nothing to worry about one way or the other?  

My point is this:  if a girl is careless and practices risky behavior, and she's not just doing this with one guy but many (and these guys are similarly careless/risky) the odds are that she has already picked up a STD.  Do you really want to be doing it with a girl that most likely has a STD?

agree

Look, I'm not an advocate of unsafe sex - far from it. I'm an advocate of not being paranoid. Everything in life involves examing the odds of something occurring.

Lets take AIDS. The chances that a WG here in HK has AIDS are what- 1 in a 1000 (probably lower). The chances of getting AIDS from one exposure to an infected women without condom use are less than 1 in a 100 - with condom use almost never. The failure rate for a SINGLE use of a condom is not much more than 1%.  You do the math, and the result is that the chances of getting AIDS from a single episode of suited sex with a WG here in HK are about the same as dying in a plane crash on the way here. Does that prevent you from flying?

You are never going to get a list of the girls on this site who don't practice save sex. Given the moral tone of this post, who's going to volunteer the info? The only thing you can do is read individual reports.

In my experience, the girls here on SEX141 are very concerned with STD's. All the ones I've screwed even carry around a bottle of Listerine!

If your only concern is passing on something to your GF, then you shouldn't be fucking around; otherwise take all reasonable precautions and enjoy it.

But, yes of course. If I knew that a girl had just BBBJ'd some asshole with herpes, I wouldn't DFK her. And I do love to kiss. So I examine the hygienic habits of the girl beforehand. In my experience, no Hotel Res girls will do anything without a condom, so I feel reasonably safe kissing them.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 23-11-2007 11:59 ]

Fair point, and I wasn't suggesting the odds are high (for HIV, though for others like chlamydia and herpes, much more common).  And I agree with you about the 141 girls, in that nearly all of them have seemed really clean and concerned about hygiene.  

I was just concerned about a few recent posts about girls offering up bare-back sex.

Most of the guys who post about bare-back sex get flamed by everyone else. The majority opinion is wear a dom. But you ARE right to be concerned.

if you are not into bare back, you don't have to avoid anyone
(since you are using doms)

Agreed! Listerine will kill the bateria but not if they have a cut in the mouth.  Never paid attention in school but what can you catch with bbj or DFK?(TB/Herpes/Hep A, B, C? Get those shots!

You do have a valid point, and this fear of disease is something we all worry about. So I've found a girl for you that will do ANYTHING you want; and best of all, this little fox is GUARANTEED to be absolutely risk free. If you're interested, PM me and I'll send you her contact number.

But I read somewhere that she's really lazy in bed...

Actually, you shouldn't kiss a WG who's just brushed her teeth since brushing can create small tears in the gums which might bleed. If I see a WG brush her teeth when I visit, I'm happy that she's hygienic (and her breath won't smell too bad) but I won't kiss her.

She looks kind of CG ~

That girl is HOT!  Can I get her number?  I heard that she doesn't complain, either.

Right you are! This chic will take anything you throw at her without even batting an eye.

I'm with you CL, never kiss a girl who brushes her teeth. In fact, I go one step further, never lick a girl who bathes - there's a good chance she's scrubbed off a tiny scab and exposed a wound.