Subject: WGs asking for money outside of sex
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WGs asking for money outside of sex

A WG I built a rapport with kept in touch via WeChat.
After a good stint recently in HK, she texted last night asking me to give her HKD 2000 cuz she bought two cats recently and said they were more expensive than she can afford.

I haven’t replied.

Sarcasm aside, how would you reply while retaining the rapport that’s been built up?

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Zodek   2-1-2020 06:11  Acceptance  +4   At least this sounds honest and not "my grandma is sick and I need money" lol
Pacificrimmer   30-12-2019 02:56  Acceptance  +5   I would just say no - budgeting her money is her responsibility
Bloodrage   29-12-2019 18:52  Acceptance  +1   just a lie/scam to me. I'd like to play along and waste her time but come up with excuses. Tell her to give the cats aw ...
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Reply #1 BootBoot's post

That's some expensive pussy. The cats too.
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If it’s me, I think it will be over (more or less)if I say no to her.  So I would counter offer her “Spend one night with me”, and you can leave in the morning with HKG$2000.  If she say yes, and the money is worth it (you think) after that night, there might be more coming.  If she say no, move on with life.
Cos I think both staying in touch with motives in mind to begin with (I could be wrong here)......she wants you attention&$$$ and you want to bang her sooner or later.

But you did stated “ rapport” so that might sounds like you already banged her before.....than!!  It’s a whole different ball game
Just saying

[ Last edited by  Explorer1 at 30-12-2019 02:03 ]

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Bloodrage   30-12-2019 04:26  Acceptance  +1   You answered way better. I was already treating her as a scammer. Prob saw too many.
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$2k does sound like a lot but value is all in the eye of the beholder. What's missing is how much her normal rate is. i.e. relatively how much is she asking for - if it's $500 and she's asking for 2k just 'because' then personally I wouldn't do it.

Depending on your rapport (i.e. is it just more comfortable or it's moved towards a more GFE type) then you can also put out a feeler to see what else she might be willing to do.

Spend a night is one option but maybe there's something else you'd prefer more... (e.g. the GFE date and then spend the night)
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Post at 30-12-2019 10:16  Profile P.M. 
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Omg this post is familiar to me. While I wouldn't be too quick to label them as scammers, my experience tells me WGs are extremely poor with financial planning and use ways like this to fund their lives.

I have experienced several times WGs asking for more money (in expensive gifts such as gold chains which has resale or pawn value, upfront cash for paying off credit card bills, or loan).

I always skip around the question and ask them when we can next meet. I would then consider an overnight session and then weigh it against how much money I am spending.

But I am careful not to do it too often in case they grow reliance on me. Often, I like to be the one hunting for their services, not them offering it to me, I just get more feel that way.

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CoreTierOne   3-1-2020 00:14  Acceptance  +1   Wise. I also too think that they have a poor tendency to overspend and must fund that lifestyle somehow ...
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Reply #1 BootBoot's post

You have to plan ahead. Her next step should be considered when you reply. Normally asking for a little amount of money is the first step of her tactics. She will ask more money with different excuses later, e.g. illness of family members, build a villa at her hometown.
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Post at 30-12-2019 16:12  Profile P.M. 
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Get something out of it. Ask her for an overnight or something. I personally wouldn't mind contributing $2k but it'd have to be two-way exchange.

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Rayguy   30-12-2019 17:16  Acceptance  +3   I’ve done the overnight offer in this kind of case and it works. I like her and keeps her happy too.
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Post at 3-1-2020 00:10  Profile P.M. 
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Hits close to home as well.

A WG I had a nice relationship with asked me to help pay her mortgage. I did give her 2k without really asking anything in return, except to see her again.
We kept in touch and I went to see her in Shenzhen when she was around. She got us drinks, ordered food in the bar for us, paid for the hotel, total she must have spent almost 1k hkd with me that night without asking anything in return, and we spent the night and next morning together. In the end I did pay her back for most of the money she spent on me because I knew it was out of her budget.

Like someone said, I think some are really bad at financial planning, don't want or can't hold a 'real' job, but still want to enjoy life. And being a WG is a way to finance that lifestyle.
Whether they genuinely care about you or are just after your money is a tricky situation to entangle, and I havent figured it out either.

In my case, a couple days later she asked me to help pay her rent. I reluctantly agreed to contribute, but she got somewhat offended, either by my reluctance, or because i tried to tell her to be more careful with her money (she has a rent, a mortgage, and goes out out every other night because she still 'wants to live'). I don't judge, but I'm not into being a sugar daddy.
We don't speak that much anymore. Will still catch her next time she's around.

My advice would be, don't give more than what you are willing to lose. That way, if you get something in return, good for you, you can say it was it was pay for play as it used to, and if you don't, then at least you won't regret what you have given her.

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Bloodrage   3-1-2020 01:45  Acceptance  +1   Oh, good to know. Wow only beginning to imagine people who spend over their budget.
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Reply #8 CoreTierOne's post

Agree, and yes they are extremely terrible at finances, yet want to live like a true middle or even middle-upper class.

If any of you are familiar with WeChat or AliPay's unsecured loan system within the app itself, you know how easy it is for them to borrow money and spend BEYOND their entire bank balance could have. I have seen WGs incurring crazy interest rates, and then rushing back to work to try to pay their loans.

I travel to Mainland China often and always ask them to accompany me. A lot of them tend not to quote prices logically (e.g. $2k a day or something), but rather, tell me to help pay off the credit card debt for the month, or make up the remaining rent or mortgage.

Based on my observation of Chinese WGs, they spend based on intuition and trust, rather than careful calculation. I got really tired and frustrated talking to them about financial management, sometimes they don't appreciate it too, so CoreTierOne's point about the WG getting someone offended is really familiar to me too. After all, if they were truly savvy, they probably wouldn't work as a WG.

Because of their poor financial management, they're gonna be a leech financially if you get too close to them or if they grow dependency on you.

So back to the main topic - WGs asking for money outside sex - Yes, they do, but it's your decision. I try not to exceed how much I would have paid for their sex haha
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Reply #9 simhyi's post

Great insights!

I glossed over it and kept chatting about other stuff.

She’s back in China so it wasn’t possible to ask for overnight stays or anything separate from the agent.

Let’s see on her next visit how it goes. Small gifts like food and meals, chocolates and sweets are ok. Paying for her purchases - no way.
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Reply #10 BootBoot's post

One common excuse I use = HK WeChat/AliPay doesn't allow us to have a wallet and we can't use those payment wallets to transfer money.

I tell them I can pass her cash if we meet [ so there, tie the cash to the punt ;) ]

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