Hi i'm new to the forum
I'm 21 i'm still a VIRGIN
I can't wait any longer. i'm getting older and JAV isnt cutting it anymore (meaning gotta stop masturbating as much and get the real stuff )

I would like some advice from all you Bro's.
Should my first be with a Hotel Walk in or a 141 walk up ? Saunas are out of the box (Don't feel like going there on my own. Not Yet . Not so sure on the mamasans bringing in the girls for you to see thing)
I've been reading lots of similar posts on the forum but they seem a bit dated (few years ago)

I've been planning this for weeks , educating myself how this stuff works , it was hard because my chinese reading skills are basically primary school grade because i'm a BBC
Then there turned out to be a fucking 141forum in english . Finally something i could fully understand.

I know my first time probably be like a few seconds but i want those seconds to be the best few seconds of my life
I get very nervous easily.I even got nervous when i bought porn mags from the newspaper stand.

My LB is telling me to go for a HG but i just can't make up my mind. HELP !
Most reports on HG's i've read have been pretty good . Whereas its like 50 50 on 141's
Money isnt kind of a problem (Kind of) It is my first time after all
I'm not asking for a total PSE but not some quick sloppy ripoff  
More like a GFE.
Which would give me the best GFE ?
Would i be better off ringing bells checking the goods or just go for HG's online ?
I know the DB photos are photoshopped but as long they look ok on the video they should'nt be that bad right ?

I plan on popping it soon   . If i want to book a HG how much advance do i need to book ?
Sorry for asking so many questions . I just need a guide
It would be great if i got you guys opinions
Thanks i will write about my FIRST TIME definitely
Thanks for the help )

[ Last edited by  donjon at 23-6-2015 18:31 ]

I respectfully advise … strongly advise … you save it for your girl friend

If your first experience with any WG isn't good you'll be scared for life !
And if it is good you'll be doing WGs forever as you wouldn't have any social skills for courtship

Thanks for your advice
I will think about it
It's a 60 / 40 to me    More on going for it
Thanks a lot bro

I would suggest you go to a place like 37 Dundas or K Pressure. For first timers they will treat you well and allow a second and even third pop if you cum fast. As for losing it with your girlfriend or a WG I believe in the aristocratic way of going to a WG to educate you so that when you're with your GF you know what you're doing. That's my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Good luck. If you are nervous to go on your own, PM me. I'll take you there if you want.

I agree with hkindo.

Another suggestion would be to find a older MILF who has been working for a while and let her know it's your first. She should look after you and make you feel relaxed and not rush you. A younger new girl would be more interested in just getting you to blow A.S.A.P collecting your money and pushing you out the door.
That's my 2centsworth.

Good luck bro

Wow I can see how this is a really big decision.

No matter what I would bring some rose petals to sprinkle the bed and maybe some scented candles and probably you should have prepared a mix tape of meaningful songs to play as you pop your cherry.

This will be close to GFE no matter what.

It will be extremely unlikely she would be persuaded to go to your car at IFC to really make it a GFE worthy experience. Bonus points if you do bc the cops will probably arrive and if they don't ask for a copy of your mix tape will probably make your cherry popping extremely realistic.

I would also bring more cash with you because the thing about losing your virginity is that once you lose your virginity, you'll more than likely want to do it again aka Brittany Spears....(Actually this is probably the best advice I have in this piece, oh an choose one that smiles when you meet, they're kinder.  Tip: you will probably need to smile too!)

All in all, you'll make it what you make it girlfriend or not, get your confidence up and go see a man about a dog and make sure she's hot!

Bro I'm not looking for that kind of GFE experience.
More like taking care of me kind of thing.
So no hg for my first ?

I'd go for walkup, walkups have more flexibility about what they do.  

HG's are strictly under the clock, managed by a papa who's taking as many bookings as he can during her stay.  She might be very nice, sweet, sexy, caring, and more, but she's not going to be able to go outside her envelope for you.  

So you're more likely to be able to cash in your unique status with a 141.  Take your time, check reports, pick one you feel comfortable going to visit, then tell her what you're looking for and DON'T WALK IN THE DOOR UNLESS YOU SEE SHE'S SYMPATHETIC.  IMHO age is less important than attitude.  OK within reason, I don't mean a MILF unless that's what you're looking for.  But I do mean a girl around 28-30 is much more likely to be patient and understanding than an 18-20 hottie who's used to being the centre of attention all her life.  

Should you go for a WG?  

There are two schools of thought.  Being taken by a loving GF is definitely sweet, and leads to much more than just a release of pressure.  But then again compromising and having a relationship with a pork chop (who then goes around boasting to all her friends, who will then never talk to you again) or submitting to an abusive and controlling girl are experiences best avoided.  The classical advice of getting trained by a pro has a lot to be said for it.  

Again IMHO, losing your virginity needn't be the big deal it's made out to be.  Certainly it's MUCH less of an issue for a guy than for a girl, emotionally, socially, and in terms of health risks.  Given that, the best advice is probably do it when you're ready, and you and only you'll know when that is.  

BTW, use a raincoat.  
Goes without saying, which is why I'm saying it.  

One other thing: you're 21.  Consider getting a vaccination for HPV.  
Not for you, but for your future wives, girlfriends, and maybe even your daughter(s) ...
HPV has almost no effect on men, except for a couple of strains that can cause genital warts.  
But there are 4 nasty strains of HPV which account for the #5 biggest cause of cancer in women: cervical cancer.  And yes, they all get it from sex with an infected partner.  

You have a chance to break the chain of transmission, and if you're considering losing your virginity with a professional, it would be an incredibly mature and responsible thing to do.  It's true of sex with any girl, your gf could pass it to you if she picked it up before you met her, but it's especially true of a pro who's (by definition) had sex with hundreds of men.  No, a dom won't protect you or her, and it never will - the only way is to get vaccinated before you catch one of the nasty strains.  

It's too late for the rest of us, but you can make a difference, and look after all your future partners.  And you can prevent ever having to have a difficult conversation with someone you love, knowing her condition comes from her love for you.  
But you can only do it now, before you start.

Ho wait , you are missing an option here, which is the perfect alternative.

Book a holiday to Thailand, and find a nice 18+ girl to hang out with during your stay on a dating site or CL or so. There is plenty of forums on this and my bet is that if you do your homework well you can find a nice, not so costly, girl who is willing to be with you for the duration of your stay.

One warning, never send money, before or after your holiday. If she asks you for money she is likely already a pro with many boyfriends sending in dow. Also, no matter how much she makes you feel in love, always use a dom.


I'd save up and do it well. Just my two cents.

Do you speak Mandarin, donjon? In my opinion, if you don't speak it at all, you're not going to have a good time with a HG. You're probably going to be very nervous, and the lack of communication is most likely going to make for an awkward situation, never mind any GFE at all.

I agree with twiceAweek to save it for now. If you really just HAVE to get it over and done with, I'd go with someone you can communicate with.

Thanks for all the feedback
The 141 community is awesome
From saving for later , to totally going for it and even getting a HPV for the future
Thanks all !   

So it sounds like HG maybe not such a good idea
More walkups or saunas

The booking a holiday to thailand thing is totally not gonna happen
I want a chinese as my first. Its not that i dont like them

I dont speak mandarin at all nor do i understand it but my canto is fine
So yeah someone that i communicate with is a big must. Does that mean all or most HG's only talk mandarin ?

It's getting obvious that donjon isn't going to be swayed by any arguments here. Just pick either HG or WG because it's not going to make a difference. The reason being that in your life you're going to have both good and bad experiences and a few years from now you're going to realize that the first time having sex really isn't a big deal.

Regardless, in addition to what the guys above have already said, I want to reiterate that...

- Nobody cares whether you're a virgin or not. And nobody knows whether you're a virgin or not.
- The first time having sex really isn't a big deal. Too many people put it on a pedestal. You're putting pussy on a pedestal.
- Years from now you're probably not even going to remember your first time.
- Nobody other than yourself cares about your first time. It might come up in conversation amongst friends, but no one really cares.
- For the most part, your partner won't care about your sexual performance. It's not a sport that's being judged.
- If you think about money too much, like the chance of not receiving full value, then even with the best experience you'll still be thinking about money because then affordability becomes your priority over everything else.

The reason for doing it with a non-pro first, like your girlfriend, is because...

- There's no self-created pressure for sexual performance. When a couple is comfortable with each other neither cares about performance because the sex is going to be great regardless.
- Real relationships allow you to build communiction and social skills.
- The love and sex learning process is incredibly valuable.
- There's no pressure about receiving full value for your money.

The vast majority of Chinese HG's ONLY speak Mandarin. The only way to find out if they speak Cantonese or English is if someone writes a report saying that they do, because the languages the agents list on the database is bullshit.

HGs pretty much are visitors by definition.  You might find an exception of course, maybe a Guangdong girl, but the majority will be Mandarin speaking and most of them are likely to be Mandarin only.  While you might find an agent who tells you the truth, the majority will be more interested in getting your money than in creating the experience you have in your mind, and most are willing to take a chance you might walk away when you discover they lied to you for the probability that you'll cave in and go for it anyway after you made a booking and showed up...  

Even 141 are mostly mainland girls (or Thai, etc) but you can find local girls.  If you get REALLY lucky you get a local girl who's just borrowed a room from her friend because she needs short term cash quickly (I did a report) ... but don't dream about that one, it would be like winning on Mark 6 on your first ticket!  

Either way, 141 gives you direct contact, see-before-you-commit, a low hassle to walk away, and a much greater chance of finding a local girl.  

Anything that is easier for you to back out from is more likely to you having a good time when you finally go all in.

One thing you want to keep in mind. Don't fall for the girl even if she is really really beautiful. Anyways. 99% of them are here for the money and there are some that will milk you out.


Giving you a third option. Try a nightclub ? Chose the girl get drunk and maybe take her to the hotel afterwards if you like her. But more expensive but if you looking for GFE that's where you would get it more. Also KTV in China are an option if your budget is limited

Hi Bro. I actually lost my v card when I was 18 in a HK walk-up in Mong Kok. After reading the comments, I am not sure if I would recommend this method. I had a good experience because I got lucky and managed to do it with a local HK girl who was young cute and sweet. Even though I couldn't finish, it was a memorable experience. I was guided by the girl because I told her that it was my first time haha. It took a lot of balls just to walk up those stairs

6 years later, I would recommend the Shanghai Sauna Experience or Los Angeles  Apartment K Girl if you want to lose your v card in such ways. PM me if you have any questions.

yeah go for it. but a good idea to get hpv vaccinations since hk has a high rate of that.

but just a tip for walk-ups:. if the wg doesnt seem really enthusiastic / inviting when u 2 first see each other, most likely she'll give the most boring, lazy, and rushed service. also telling u to hurry up fast.

book some1 that will give u multiple pops
that way, u dont have to worry about popping too quickly

Donjon - any news on the cherry front? Feel different?  Skies are brighter? Would love to hear the conclusion?

Yes
Heres my Report : http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 4205&highlight=

Thanks for all you guys advice,
I  just went for it !  My dick controls my brain
To forum moderator twiceAweek and others who agreed  
Sorry I'm very weak. I had to just get it over and done with, it was making me crazy !

At the end of the day it is my choice.
For saving it for my GF , i think that experience will still be special even though i went to see a WG before.
I mentally think WG's are just sex toys for my dick. (I still do treat them with respect though ..absolutely )

Losing my V Cards really werent that much big of a deal

i doubt i will be addicted to it ..my job wont allow it
i hope not
Thanks guys again