Seriously, how many of you are TRUELY happy just mongering all the time and punting here and there.
For me, i have been in HK for one year and been mongering on a regular basis,  but in this one year time.
I didnt think i was truely happy, not because of the level of service or the lack of pretty WGs, but because
my life is empty with no real friends, no love, no relationship, etc.

I am not asking the men with wives or girlfriend, but single person like myself in HK.

So, are you truely happy? Even you know you have a giant pool of girls to select from and give you sex all
the time. So what? For me, i visit WG because i have a sexual desire and urge to release.

But after the 30min-1hr of fun, you go back to your miserable lonely life until the next punt.

If you ask me, i really would just rather look for a long term relationship with one girl and stay with her only.
I feel sick of myself having to resort to paying for WGs, but since i am neither rich nor handsome,
HK girls (the pretty ones) would not want to date me.

It is very depressing something, but WGs is all i have. So, all you single guys mongering and punting?
You guys are truely happy with your life?

Has punting with WGs messed up your standards such that you think it would be impossible to be satisfied with a GND civilian?  Definitely that's a hazard in this game.

Interesting topic!!!

I have a girlfriend, i'll just leave my 2 cents...

to me, its easier to go to wg's instead of having another date... cause it is impossible to have a 2nd date her without getting caught... im for several years listed as bf off "xxx"...  so my chances in hometown are like zero..


but when im in hk, i prefer WG's over clubbinggirls etc... (NOT all the time, sometimes its fun to have dates) but it is just way easier (whenever you want, whoever you want), and its pure business ( fuck and go, no other bs after fucking ), to fuck so many hot chicks with sick body, will cost me too much effort and who says the effort gets rewarded??

bring on the wg's please!

Everything in life is attitude. I don't seek out WGs for anything other than 45 mins of sexual intimacy with a beautiful girl.

And you're right: WGs are not GFs, they don't give you any of the emotional richness (or hassles) of a relationship with someone you care about - time with a WG isn't meaningful in the sense that it doesn't satisfy our need for genuine/consequential involvement with another human being.

But I've always had GFs, and when I was in a relationship, I usually didn't feel the need to visit WGs.  (Tho if I ever found myself in Bangkok, forget it!) If you're a young guy who's never been in a passionate, loving relationship with a girl, than I can understand your feelings quite well.

But it sounds to me like you need to work on the problem of finding a GF - even tho we all have to deal with the hand nature dealt us, technique and attitude can make a huge difference. If you convince yourself it isn't going to happen, it won't.

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Seeking and acheiving your dreams are two different things, last year I did an incredible 19621 mile motorbike journey, I feel somewhat empty inside now I have little to dream about.

I suggest that perhaps you try different things, if I dobn't find a job in HK this time i'm going back to the UK to train as a stunt skydiver!

i think just about any guy can get a gf. perhaps u are only going for the hot ones which may not be in ur league. i have a similar problem as yours so i go for less pretty girls. even wg i dont go for the hot ones, i find that the ok looking ones usually provide better service.

I've had fantastic GF's that are beautiful, intelligent, honest and hardworking.  I've also mongered regularily for the last 10 years at least, and i'm only 30.  

I can tell you that I wasn't happy even though I felt fulfilled in the relationship aspect.  I always felt that I was missing out on all the fun I have mongering.  Maybe it's my own social problems that result in me secretly resenting my SO for keeping me from mongering.

Now that I monger all I want, sometimes I feel as though I miss companionship that I once had in the relationship.  I wish I could do it both, but I have a hard time with it.  

Maybe I'm just dating some high maintenance girls, but the hot ones are typically like this (or at least in my experience).  Maybe I'll meet a hot, low maintenance girl one day, but until then I know that I don't want to be stuck in a relationship, where I will not be able to monger.  I enjoy our hobby/lifestyle choice so much that I would choose to be without a SO, and forfeit serious relationships in order to concentrate on career and indulgences in my favourite hobbies.  

If being in a meaningful relationship happens then great, but the alternative misery (in my case) of being in a comitted relationship without mongering is the more gruesome death IMO.

The confusion or stress caused by trying to decide what life to lead is stressful and I can feel your pain bro.  I'm sorry I can't really lend any advice, or clearly answer you if I'm happy or not, but these are some of the same confused thoghts going in my head all the time.

Would love to hear from what some of the more senior forum members have to say on the subject.

the things WG'sare no strings attached, fuck and go
good for me cos i have a girlfriend

and really as long as you are not ugly is not realli the looks as corny as it sounds its the personality and humor
at least that is more of a case for girls than guys, guys... we are just shallow like tat

As I was reading down through the reply's, I was putting together my response in my mind. Upon reading Wayno's response, he basically said what I was going to say almost idea-for-idea!

I'll just add that I just start getting bored with the sex with a SO after a while. The non-sexual connections that also brought us into a relationship tend to remain, and I try to continue developing those, but the sex just diminishes in quality and quantity. And this has happened with GFs who were basically sex addicts and would do almost anything I asked (and did ask!). I guess I just like variety to keep my "excitement" levels up. I guess in that sense it's an addiction. . . .

Maybe it's biological (as some scientists will argue). . . you know the imperative to spread the seed around that influences this.

Anyway, this is a difficult situation to reconcile. I would just advise that what ever you decide, don't regret it. Enjoy life. You only have one!

I've resigned myself to trying to have as many girls as I can until I'm too old to get it up any more! (unless I find that one girl that is super hot and complements/completes all the other idiosyncratic aspects of my life! )

Everybody seems to be missing the point - the guy's lonely, his life empty. Having a GF and turning to WGs for something extra isn't his situation. He wants to know if, having no friends or lovers, only visiting WGs can really be satisfying.

I suspect most would say that tho it may not be truly satisfying, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

Having no life outside your current isolated limited circle will not be satisfying because there is no relationship involved with the working girl.  I think man are general social animals, having friends and family and being involved in relationship are necessary to have a satisfying life.

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I gotta admit, most of the time I'm pretty unhappy/depressed with life. Being on this board is somewhat therapeutic in this regard. Not to the point of clinical depression, but sometimes.  And mongering most of the time makes it worse, though my sessions in SZ and HK were certainly a lot better than the ones here in the US.  Not because of the great sex, but probably because the cost is more affordable in line with my income and expenses.   Once in a blue moon, I do find that girl who is both gifted in bed and a good conversationalist. Unfortunately once reality sinks in that she's good at her job, I get more depressed.

Work, my kid, and on the computer for hours on end are my whole life basically.  And I do plenty to fuck up in both of these arenas as well.  A typical overseas Chinese parent (though I am ABC), I drive my kid nuts with his schooling AND his after-school activities (similar to my parents).  He's already gotten in trouble at school for swearing and I know where that came from.  I've bounced around from startup to startup like many Silicon Valley techie dreamers looking for that pot of gold, and here I am in my mid 40's back as a workabee at a large company with major title deflation.  Pretty well-paid workabee but still a workabee. I go through major periods, weeks sometimes, where I don't talk to my wife at all.  I haven't called anyone in my side of the family for a couple of years.  Or hers for that matter.  Rarely call any friends back, and that's only on IM that I talk to them. Don't believe in Facebook or Twitter or any other 2.0 medium.

Oh boy, and i thought i was the only one that is unhappy.

I moved to HK because of 2 reason.

1) I fell in love with a WG. I quit my very high paying job in the US, moved to HK to be with her.
    She ended up trying to scam quite alot of my money, but i dumped her as soon as i knew she was
    after my money, though i did spend alot... alot of money on her.

2) Because there is an endless supply of WG. I knew if plan (1) failed, i will just resort to punting all
    my life. And that is the reason why i stay in HK. Now i work and make 1/3 what i use to make, but
    still enough to visit a WG on a regular basis.

But after a year, i just dont find myself happy. I really wished the WG i fell in love with didnt tried to scam
me, i would have turned her life around, and i would be a very happy person today.

Oh well, life isnt perfect.

how did she try to scam u?

horny,
Cheer up.  I've been in almost the same situation, and it turned into the best years of my life.  I moved to San Francisco with a girl and left everything behind in my old city.  She turned out to be a bitch and we broke up within 3 or 4 months.  So I was alone in a new city, etc.

I started mongering like crazy.  I had never been around so many quality mongering options.  But I felt a little detached like you have described.  Luckily the girls in my office are 90% Asian, so I started getting to know them, let them know I was single, and did some very mild innocent flirting.  Like if I pissed a girl off, I would send a chinese character apology, then she would give me a nickname, like bendangua or whatever.  Before you know it I'm going out after work for drinks every night and this group of girls took me under their wing.  Of course I'm mongering every other day just about.  So I'm very relaxed from a sexual standpoint.  The coworkers set me up with their friends and I really approached it just as friendly dating and a chance to have honest companionship with the opposite sex, and I always had someone to see movies or go out to eat with, and I wasn't tied down to anyone, and I treated like a king by every girl I was with.

Anyway, I got to know many girls (and guys) and was introduced to their families and became close to many different groups/families, and they were always trying to set me up with the best single girls in each group.  Occasionally, I would slip a little and a hug would turn into a grope and I would have my finger in a girls pussy etc, then I would back off and apologize and take it back to a friend-type relationship.  This apparently made these girls try even harder, LOL.  They would still hang out at my place or me at theirs, and many times I would spend the night in the same bed, and maybe strip down to shorts.  I could always put my hands on them at night and use the excuse that I was just sleeping/dreaming.  Sometimes a quick minor sexual act would occur, and I would try to minimize it and act like it was just a human error type of thing.  These were great, great times.  Eventually, I got too close to one girl and started combining stuff and starting a life with her and before you know it, she's my SO.  I'm very happy with her, but I miss those days of being sought by so many great ladies.  

I owe my happiness in those days to mongering.  Because I enjoyed the mongering immensely, and it took the need to chase women out of my life.  And you know what happens the minute you stop chasing something?  If you aren't already, I hope you can get in with a good group of girls at your work, once you do that things will fall into place for you quickly.

My 2 cents on this bro is that you can never rely on anybody else to make your llife happy - not friends, not, GFs and, in your case, not WGs. You have to find out what there is in life that makes YOU happy. For example, if you love to sail, you can sail the oceans of the world completely alone and be perfectly happy. Kennichi mentioned his epic motor cycle ride that obviously made him happy - at least for a while. And when you've found out what makes you happy, you'll meet others with the same interest - hopefully men and women. Then you'll be even more happy. I firmly believe that you need something in your life that you LOVE to do. If you don't know what that is yet - just try lots of new things until you find something. Get out there bro - the world is full of wonderful and exciting things to do. Sounds like Kennichi has the right idea - go skydiving. Do anything except sitting at home feeling sorry for yourself.

Anyone who is looking for happiness should watch this:-

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en ... y_are_we_happy.html

it challenges our preconceptions ... here's a quote: "Our 'psychological immune system' lets us feel truly happy even when things don’t go as planned."

This thread has pulled together fellow bros to pour in their hearts.

All the single guy punters I mongered with over the year and including myself (when I was single for a period of time), felt the same emptiness at the end of our mongering journey or after party side effect.
That's the Ugly Truth.

Best remedy is to emgage in other extra-curricular activity, another healthy hobby. Find a GF/partner. As the saying goes, the best and worse thing in life is Woman, you cant stand living with them and you cant live without them.
All you need is Love. Faith and Hope will follow!!!

Recently, I met a new GF, we can only meet each other once a month. I still monger but the cruel emptiness feeling has fade away. At the end of the day, I know I have a home and GF to go back to.


Bro horny141, Btw, what took you so long to participate?
Nevertheless, we welcome your participation and experience sharing.

Come on man, you said it yourself "my life is empty with no real friends, no love, no relationship, etc." Isn't it pretty obvious? It has nothing to do with mongering or WGs, you need a life! **sorry if I sounded harsh**

Go for WG is one life but outside of this you need to find out your life.
Then you have your job life.
Each time you need to find the right you the appropriate life.
If cannot you will feel more and more sad.
definately the more confortable life is the one with the WG.
No attach just sex.